![]() G used to slip a bit and the other day low E started slipping quite badly. ![]() I have a LP classic plus and put on the locking tuners last year. I think I have solved the problem, at least for me. I hope I can be of help and that others with this problem find this thread as I did. The next to be replaced for sure, but with what? So forget behind the nut Tele bends I blame this more on the Magnum Lock design than the tuner gearing itself. The problem here is that the strings SNAP at the point of locking unless I put a single 'cusion' wrap on before the lock, defeating the purpose of a locking tuner. ![]() What's worse, is that I have a set of SD90's (or whatever the inline 6 is) on my Tele Deluxe. Anyway, it has me considering another brand but I haven't pulled the trigger on swapping them out yet. I'm miffed that anyone would sell a tuner knowing it would slip (SD90's) - even if the original Kluson's had this issue. Gotoh's "Rock Solid" technology apparently solves this - yes it's actually called Rock Solid. What I did find on one forum is that the model we really want is the "Rock Solid" version - the SD510's and NOT the SD90's which is what I think I have. Since then, I've been searching the internets to see if anyone had the same problem. Then one night I discovered the EXACT same thing you did - I pulled mightily on an already stretched wound string and I could SEE the tuner slip. I thought the bridge was loose, maybe even structural failure of the guitar. I trust all things Gotoh, so when my LP started to fall out of tune seemingly for no reason, the last thing I imagined was the (pricey) Gotoh locking machines would be the culprit. YES - I have the exact same problem since installing them (over a year ago) on my Les Paul. Hi - hope you don't mind me Zombifying this thread. Trouble with Gotoh Kluson style locking tuners in McCarty - The Forums Birds And the higher the string, the less it seems to be an issue. Exact same thing and, like him, it's pretty much on the low E and A. he said it eventually went away after a few days and hasn't done it since. I've done a search and I know many here own these and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this? I found a user on another forum who had more than one set of these and was experiencing this exact same thing. considering the way these tuners work, I shouldn't really need to do that anyway and from my description you can see that that isn't the issue anyway. I put a coin in the top of the post and tightened the locking mechanism down as hard as I felt comfortable doing to make sure there was no slack in there but it made no difference. I wanted to see how long I could pull on the string and have the post unwind and it seems to be endless. At first I though it was just taking up slack in the locking mechanism and would eventually stabilize but I would get stuck in a never ending loop of tuning, stretching, tuning, stretching. It was just the post turning backwards, not the tuning key. I watched the post while I was stretching the strings and I could see that the post was turning when I yanked on the string to stretch it. When I was stretching my strings I noticed the low E and A strings were detuning an abnormal amount and I couldn't get them up to pitch in a stable way. The seller has offered to refund me but I'm hoping it doesn't have to come come to that. Overall, I highly recommend Gotoh tuners, specifically the SD90 MGT / SD91 MGT thumbwheel locking Kluson-pattern tuners.I received a set of Gotoh Vintage Locking Kluson style tuners to put on my '90 Standard. If you've ever had Grovers on a ~6lb SG, then you know the increased weight is a pain. T his is particularly helpful for neck-heavy guitars such as double cut Juniors and SGs. They are built to an extremely similar aesthetic, but with fantastic quality - I find that there is less perceived slop when turning the tuner knobs.ĭespite being thumbwheel locking tuners and therefore having more components, they have barely more mass than factory Kluson tuners - approximately 1 gram per tuning machine - so unlike many modern or locking tuners, they don't add significant mass to the headstock. The screw holes align perfectly and the shafts are the same diameter, so new bushings are typically not required. Being traditional Kluson profile, the SD90s are a direct drop-in replacement for any Gibson (or similar 3x3) with traditional-style Kluson pattern tuners. I have used Gotoh SD90 MGT and SD91 MGT on 6 different guitars now, mostly Gibson and Fender, and I adore them. My favorite Kluson-style replacement tuners on the market.
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